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  Who am I again?

  by Bleep in

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  ahhhhh!.

  you are a cog.

  cope, whippersnapper, blep, troll, bla bla bla, sad.

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  Double Edge

  Who am I!!!!! Ahhhhh!

  A misguided youth who will someday come to know the real "TRUTH" and will say of his JW experience "What the hell was I thinking".
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  I DONT GET IT!

  by ANGIE2743 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, my name is angelica and and want you guys to explain to me what this web site is all about?

  cuz it seems to me that its about how jw do everything wrong.

  pls, it will be nice of you guyd if you answer my question.

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  Double Edge

  I've been here 7 months, have never been a JW, but have learned a lot. Don't close your mind. Stick around for a few weeks, you might just find something that will impact your life tremendously...others in your shoes have, and they don't regret it.
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  Alan F. and wife beaten while on vacation.

  by seven006 in

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  our friend alan f. and his wife julie have been on vacation in oregon for a week.

  they took a couple days to visit the oregon coast and rented a beach house in a small town south of cannon beach.

  i drove down from portland yesterday to spend the day with them and their daughter julie and my son abe.

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  Double Edge

  I was just getting ready to call 1-800-FLOWERS....Thank God I don't have to. Scheeeeeesh.
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  Discussion forum for anything NOT JW related

  by Bleep in

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  2. bible

  discussion forum for anything not jw related.

  ... apostates are welcome !.

  bla bla bla sin oh yes!

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  Double Edge

  Bleep:

  As Forest Gump's mama would say: "Apostate is as Apostate does."

  You sure use that term freely. I think a lot of Christian congregations would consider YOU and your beliefs APOSTATE....totally leaving TRUE Christianity for a false "wanna-be" religion.

  I'm still waiting for some JW to show me how they validate their claim as God's TRUE organization here on the earth that goes back 2,000 years. So far, as I (a non-JW) look at your religion's claims, all I get is that some Bible Students tried to find "original" Christianity, started a religion, different leaders came in with numerous false prophecies, the Bible Students left because of major disagreements, some JW's changed the Bible to back up their radically different doctrine, and in between people have died and have had their whole lives and family's lives screwed up because of unscriptural blood doctrine and shunning.

  In fact Bleep, of all the people on this board, there are only a handful that could probably be considered a real Apostate, and your writings seem to indicate that you're one of them.
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  I desperately need a WT bible!

  by Overseer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey,.

  i am not currently a jw but i really want to do some private study of your bible.... i live in a remote area of yorkshire and there are no kingdom halls about.

  are there any websites (that deliver to the uk) where i can order a wt bible in the hope of becoming a jw in the future?.

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  Double Edge

  A link you might be interested in for reference:

  http://www.dtl.org/books/preview/nwt.htm

  ALSO, I FOUND THE FOLLOWING ON THE INTERNET:

  Examples of mistranslation within NWT in order to teach their that Jesus was created:

  First and most obviously to anyone who has looked at the NWT is the appearance of JEHOVAH in the NT portion over two hundred times where the Greek text has KURIOS (LORD). The second way in which the NWT has systematically abused the divine names or titles is in its handling of text in which Jesus is called God (Isa 9:6; John 1:1,18; 20:28; Rom 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8; 2 Peter 1:1; 1 John 5:20; Acts 20:28), of these, the NWT translates four so that Jesus is not called God at all (Rom 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8; 2 Peter 1:1), and two so that he is "A god" or "god" (John 1:1, 18). The remaining three texts (Isa 9:6; John 20:28; 1 John 5:20), are not mistranslated, but are interpreted so that either Jesus is not called God at all or he is called God only in a lesser sense. In short, wherever possible, the NWT translates texts that call Jesus God in such a way as to keep the text from making that identification!

  JUST A FEW EXAMPLES:

  Genesis 1:2	"Spirit of God" changed to "God's active force."	The revision modifies the original noun with a more impersonal form as the JWs reject the orthodox Christian belief in the personality of the Holy Spirit.
  Exodus 3:14	"I am" changed to "I shall prove to be."	The revision clouds the connection between God's self proclaimed title and Jesus' proclamation of being the same in John 8:58, as the JW rejects the deity of Jesus.
  Numbers 1:52	"Under his own standard" changed to "by his [three-tribe] division."	The Hebrew word degal translated as "standard" literally means flag or banner. Since the JWs regard saluting a flag as an act of idolatry, the text has been altered according to their doctrinal bias. (Same revision found in Num. 2:2, 3, 10, 18, 25; 10: 14, 18, 22, 25.)
  Isaiah 43:10	"Nor will there be one after me" changed to "after me there continued to be none."	The original future tense of the verb indicates that there will never be another being sharing in God's divinity. The altered tense suggests credibility to the JW doctrine of Jesus' becoming a "mighty god" while still being less than Jehovah in nature. (See the John 1: I discussion below for another expression of this JW distortion.)
  Ecclesiastes 12:7	"The spirit returns" changed to "the spirit itself returns."	The passage indicates the return of a human spirit to God after death. Since the JWs believe in an unconscious state after death, "itself' has been inserted to suggest a more impersonal reference to spirit.
  Matthew 2:11	"Bowed down and worshipped him" changed to "did obeisance to it"	The JWs evade recognizing Jesus as worthy of worship as a divine being by altering the form of honor that he receives from men and angels. The Greek word proskuneo literally means "worship." The use of "obeisance" is a NWT adaptation. (Same revision found in Matt. 8:2; 9:18, 14:33; 15:25; 28:9, 17; Mark 5:6; 15:19; Luke 24:52; John 9:38; Heb. 1:6.)
  Matthew 5:19	"Least in the kingdom of heaven" changed to "least in relation to the kingdom of the heaven."	The passage indicates that a disobedient believer who sins can still find forgiveness and eternal life. The JWs believe heaven is reserved for only 144,000 specially designated servants of God. The revision suggests more separation between these groups through a status hierarchy.
  Matthew 25:46	"Eternal punishment" changed to "everlasting cutting-off."	The Greek word kolasis translated "punishment" indicates continuous torment, but the NWT revision suggests "termination," as the JWs promote the doctrine of annihilationism regarding condemned souls.
  Mark 1:4	"Baptism of repentance" changed to "baptism [in symbol] of repentance. "	Nothing in the original Greek text justifies the insertion of "in symbol." The revision undermines the significance of John the Baptist's ministry, the Jewish meaning of baptism and the Christian sacrament of baptism in contrast to the more regimented JW baptism requirements

  Edited by - Double Edge on 24 July 2002 14:22:52
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  Ahem...Can I ask a question?

  by pomegranate in

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  well, are ya?

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  Double Edge

  As Forest Gump's momma use to say "Freaky is as freaky does".
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  Spirit in the Sky - Norman Greenbaum

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometime in late 1969 to 1970, the number one hit song "spirit in the sky" by norman greenbaum was interesting to me.

  don garloff, jr., the jw man who brought me into the religion lived next to norman greenbaum ... don told me that norman based part of his song about going to heaven to meet the "spirit in the sky" as a rebuttal to the jw belief system of living on earth forever.

  norman greenbaum at that time lived in the rural areas near petaluma, california ... i was listening to the radio a while ago and heard this song again, and thought that this might be an interesting bit of trivia.

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  Double Edge

  Amazing... I've always liked that song alot and the your background info makes this an interesting tidbit post for me. Thanks!
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  Ray Franz reinstated ???

  by HaitianBoston in

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  can anyone confirm this?

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  Double Edge

  Sure, I'll confirm it....but then again, I've heard nothing...in fact, I've never been a JW.
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  Ghosts and Spooky things

  by Crazy151drinker in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  who here has every seen/felt/experienced spooky/ghostly things???

  i did a couple of times at an apt.

  i lived in when i went to state.

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  Double Edge

  Yikes....Yours is far more scaryer than mine. Your 'ghosts' seem to have a sense of humor, but I know it's no fun while you're going thru it. The couple I had involves apparitions....the first when I was in college.... The second one, years later, I too got out my revolver and checked the place out. Couldn't go back to sleep the rest of the night.
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  My mommy doesn't want me. . I need a hug

  by StinkyPantz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i sent my mom a letter not too long ago telling her that i wanted my family back.

  well, i got a very unexpected response.

  she basically said "no".

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  Double Edge

  [[[[[HUGs]]]]] to you S.P. Maybe she's doing here 'tough love' thing, trying to 'save' you and guilt you back to the JW's.....it's hard to believe that deep down a mother doesn't feel that special love for their child.

  Don't look backward, but forward...and put forth your love to others that need it. If you're not a mom now, you'll probably be one of the BEST ones around because of your experiences and your children will make up for what has been lost. {{{HUGS AGAIN}}}